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Michael Fitzpatrick's avatar

Eugene, this is by far the most perplexing and difficult to interpret essay of yours I've read. I find myself in profound affinity with parts of it, and recoiling from others. So this will be a little stream-of-consciousness.

I very much share your revulsion over both the election and administration of Donald Trump, a revulsion which motivates and bookends your essay. I also think your broad point about the application of the pastoral and Pauline epistles to this present moment is excellent. It's related to a point I've been making for some years now that after decades of the fundamentalists warning us about the dangers of relativism, they all capitulated to the biggest moral relativist who ever campaigned for public office.

I also very much like your broad point about reading scripture dialectically. As a Christian Platonist, I'm a fan of reading everything dialectically! Nor am I an inerrantist or anything like that. There are mistakes and bad ideas within the scriptures. Though it is a very different thing to assert that Holy Spirit is *advocating* those elements, rather than merely leaving in scripture, as C. S. Lewis has said, "naivety, error, contradiction, even (as in the cursing Psalms) wickedness" to display "the human qualities of the raw materials."

Which is why I find myself rather taken aback by your somewhat flippant and unsupported assertions that scripture is burgeoning with heinous shit and the like. That has not been my experience reading scripture devotionally. While I broadly agree with your re-construction of Romans 1, I don't think St. Paul is homophobic. Having a heteronormative worldview does not make one homophobic. These are importantly distinct categories. The former is the view that humans as a species reproduce heterosexually, just as we're also bipedal as a species. Neither heteronormativity nor bipedalnormativity imply that non-heterosexual relations or people missing a leg or having an extra leg are "bad" or "evil." In some fashion. St. Paul thinks that the Gentiles he has in mind were given over to their perverse desires, which probably means people who engaged in desires *because* those were contrary to nature, not out of a spirit of genuine love and affection. I had a pastor a few years back who said a modern equivalent of Paul's example would be someone today getting off by penetrating a partner with their foot. It's about finding sexual stimulation in the perverse, which every pornographer throughout human history as specialized in (consider the proliferation of incest role play in pornography today).

Therefore, I don't think anything Paul says is homophobic and I don't think anything in your argument implies that he is (although he is, like all of us, heteronormative, because even a species that has recreational sexual practices outside of reproduction is still under the norms of whatever sexual practices foster reproduction, which again does not mean sex reduces to reproduction, only that reproduction is an irreducible source of normativity for us). Despite your caveats, I still found many of your assertions about scripture in general and Paul in particular unnecessarily hasty.

Most often whenever I find something heinous or reprehensible in scripture, the problem lies more in my assumptions and misreading of the text than what Holy Spirit is actually trying to teach the Church from the scriptures.

Last point, I have found myself much less worried about heinous content in scripture and more worried by heinous content in theological publications. You mentioned finding inspiration from a Womanist theologian. A few years back I dived into some Womanist literature to see what the fuss was, and came across Wil Gafney's article on Ruth. If I was ever to identify a text for the Church's use of "dubious moral character" and advocating some "truly heinous shit," it would be that piece. When I ended her appalling argument for how to re-read Ruth "Womanistically," if I had thought there was a shred of truth in her argument, I'd have ceased to be a Christian immediately and called for the forced closure of all Christian churches and ministries as instruments of unfettered evil. It was the most irresponsible piece of theological and pastoral writing I've ever read.

Would I take the book of Ruth, which Gafney treats as "heinous shit" over the "heinous shit" of her biblical exegesis? Any day. I am much more confident that Holy Spirit has and will continue to speak through every page of the scriptures than I am that Holy Spirit is using every or even most pages churned out by theologians. So when I encounter scripture that puzzles or even discomforts me, I just remember that if it discomforts me, how much more will it serve as a discomfort to tyrants like Donald Trump. It's the discordance between scripture and our self-congratulatory estimation of our contemporary moral sensibilities that gives me the most hope.

For I remain convinced that the scriptures and its authors are far more subversive about the powers and the victory over them than we are without our pathetic elections and aging public bureaucracies. We've allowed the panacea of liberalism to beguile us for decades into believing that we can achieve a measure of justice on this earth without doing the much harder work imagined by scripture to transform society through serving one another as Christ first served us. I'll be writing in the months to come about how it is my conviction that a distinctly Christian politics -- one divorced from liberalism and quite antithetical to the nonsensical chauvinism of Christian nationalism -- is our best hope for a just society. And my source for a Christian politics is and remains the scriptures, but the scriptures read "under grace, with attention to tradition and to interpreters wiser than ourselves, and with the use of such intelligence and learning as we may have," as C. S. Lewis counseled against the fundamentalists.

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Lou Schlesinger's avatar

Enjoyed your post -- and the clarity of the your point about Paul's *present* mindset informing a larger point of turning from God's wisdom and goodness. I'm picking nits here, and I may be misunderstanding one of your points. But I view the roughly 150 million American voters, not Trump, as siding with Pontius Pilate -- and Trump as Barrabas.

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